Running a restaurant is no easy feat. It’s a famously tough business to profit from, with statistics showing that three out of five new restaurants close within a year, and four out of five won’t make it past five years. To stay afloat, many resort to pricing certain menu items far above the cost of the ingredients.
But not everyone is keeping quiet about it. Some workers decided to pull back the curtain on which products face the steepest markups at their establishments. If you’re curious, you’ll find their confessions—along with other behind-the-scenes secrets—below.
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Not so much a secret but a lesser known fact...
Kirkland products, the white label brand from Costco, are independently tested to beat OR EXCEED the industry leading product in that category. Razor blades. Cookies. Cheese. Laundry pods. If it doesn’t beat the industry leader, they won’t put the Kirkland name on it.
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#2
Most of our desserts are purchased from the Wal-Mart directly across the street then marked up 500%. For the price of a couple of pieces of cheesecake, you could just go across the street to Wal-Mart after your meal and buy a whole one.
We just drizzle a bit of chocolate or raspberry sauce on it so that it doesn't look exactly like the one from Wal-Mart.
Also, a smoker outside the building doesn't mean your barbecue is fresh. Most of it is frozen. Sometimes we just throw logs on there so it *looks* and *smells* like we're barbecuing. Homey, we made that s**t two days ago. That's just wood you're smelling.
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#3
My husband used to work in a gastro-pub in a well-to-do area where it was the only option.
The baked Camembert. It was literally the Camembert from Aldi. £1 each. Baked and sold for £15 to share.
Everyone was convinced it was some really posh continental fine cheese with a special Camembert oven or some s**t. Nope, they could do the exact same thing at home for a pittance of the price.
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#4
Not a chef but I worked at a Japanese for a while and we had this thing called a Volcano roll. It cost $7.25. A California roll there cost $3.75. The Volcano roll was a Cali roll cut into the shape of a triangle and topped with spicy mayo that has been heated up with about $.10 worth of fish, literally just a few bits. You are much better off ordering a Cali roll and paying $.50 extra for spicy mayo on the side and asking them to heat it up.
I had one guy come in with a girl and he ordered a couple of regular rolls like spicy tuna and yellowtail, along with a Volcano roll. When served in the restaurant, unless they ask us, we would put the sauce on top so it looked nice, like a Volcano. When I brought that roll over he was like, "Oh, I didn't know you guys put the sauce on, I've only gotten it for pick up and the sauce is always on the side. I don't really like it, could you bring me one one without it?" I tried not to laugh and said sure. I went back and the sushi chef asked what was wrong. I told him that he didn't like the sauce and want one without it. He laughed and said alright, so he took a Cali roll, cut it up, and put it on the plate. I brought it back to the guy and he was super pumped.
Basically this guy paid $7.25 for a roll that would have cost him $3.75 and me and the sushi chef got to split a free volcano roll. Normally I would have just told him about it, but the dude was being pretty arrogant the entire time, I'm guessing to act like he was a sushi expert to impress the girl he was with.
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#5
Not a chef but, in the UK if your restaurant is licensed to serves alcohol you legally have to provided free drinking water, but what they can do is charge you for the glass.
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#6
We used to sell a house-made drink with a ton of stuff we could make behind the bar for basically nothing. The cost to us, per pour, was $1.89. We sold it for $12.
Granted, that kind of thing allows us to sell expensive things for far less than other places, which actually pissed off the guys up the street from us who were selling the same products for a good deal more. So usually when you're getting ripped off via a particular item, it's letting you get something good for less. Take salad, for example. Nothing about mixed green should cost $11, but when everyone and their mother eats one, we can sell that ahi tuna steak for $24 instead of $28.
I love doing this with beer. Yes, Peroni on draft is going to cost you $6, even though our pour cost is about $1.25. But that means I can put up that log of Alesmith Speedway Stout and it will also cost you 6 bucks instead of 8 or 9. Basically - the cheap s**t should cost a ton so the expensive stuff isn't so bad.
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#7
Back when I was a fry cook, some customers thought they were being slick and would order unsalted fries to make sure they got fresh ones. Us cooks would just put already salted fries back into the fryer to wash the salt off.
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#8
Candy man here. We left chocolate out in display cases for months on end. When my friends came by to the store I told them to avoid it at all costs.
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#9
Health inspection is really kind of a sham. Health inspectors tend to inspect all the restaurants in an area around the same time. When the inspector shows up at one restaurant the manager will typically notify the other restaurants in the area. I worked at a Taco Bell. When we got a call from the BK down the street that the health inspector was there, we knew he would be showing up at our place sometime in the next week. We would call in extra people to do a deep clean of everything. It did not matter that most of the year every time we hosed out under the fryer or food prep lines, we drowned hundreds of roaches. When the health inspector showed up everything was clean, so we still had a 100% on our health inspection.
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#10
Not really a rip-off, but there's an Italian place nearby that serves a deliciously savory dipping sauce called Bagna Cauda. $13 gets you about an 8 oz crock of it and 6 soft breadsticks to dip. I googled it and it's just melted butter with anchovies and a little sour cream melded in. I made a fondue pot of it for New Year's Eve. Super easy, inexpensive, and impressed the hell out of our guests.
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#11
The only thing that is fresh and healthy, not pre-made, bagged and/or frozen at like all fast food places is the tomatoes.
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#12
Yes, yes, yes! They are RARELY cleaned out. Like almost NEVER. Bugs, dirt, food particles, whatever.
At two previous restaurant jobs I felt bad that customers were getting gross ice (both places had a single machine), and mentioned it to my managers at the time. They both brushed it off as having better things to do with my time, so I used to "accidentally" kick the plug out of the wall in the evenings, come in the next day, and find a half-melted ice machine. I was stuck cleaning it, but it was worth it, since I felt better about the ice being served. We had to use ice from the store down the street for the rest of the day, but it wasn't like it cost the restaurants much money.
One bartender told me he would "accidentally" drop/break a glass into an ice machine to serve the same purpose if the management wasn't being cool about it. Broken glass = scoop out and dump all the ice, and might as well clean the thing since it's empty.
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#13
Maybe not a "secret secret" but just not something people realized.
At Wendy's, the cooked burgers that don't get sold, those go into a pot in a refrigerator, and they get made into TOMORROW's chili.
The crispy chicken that doesn't get sold today? Those go into a pot in the fridge and those get made into TOMORROW's crispy chicken salads.
Back when Wendy's had a salad bar ... the burger buns that are going stale at the end of a day? Those got made into tomorrow's garlic bread on the salad bar.
None of this is unsafe, all of this is approved by the department of health, and none of this is a trade secret ... but I bet you didn't realize that.
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#14
Starbucks supervisor here. There is no secret menu, and we're not trained to make those viral TikTok drinks. Some of the more common ones, like a Cotton Candy Frap, the baristas might know, but don't bank on it. If you want us to make something 'off-menu,' have the recipe handy. As a side note, many of those drinks also rely on seasonal ingredients, so you should have a backup choice ready.
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#15
We buy tiny wine bottles for $7 and sell for $37.
Spaghetti Factories house wine is Franzia box wine.
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#16
Keep in mind that to make money, we have to bump up everything by at least 300% to keep the doors open. More on some stuff. Less on others. That being said when you're picky kid just wants pasta and butter and we charge you $8.95 for it...thanks.
As a chef it's all about food costs. We often play distributors off each other to keep the costs down. And there's always more than one distributor.
The one thing you don't make any money on is chicken wings. I know you're thinking "man, why are they so expensive". The demand is exceeding the supply right now. There's only so many chickens out there. Plus we need oil to fry them, power to run the fryer, money to pay the guy that fries them, celery is expensive lately, blue cheese, the server that brings them to you gets paid...it all gets factored into it so remember that this Super Bowl when you're wallet takes a hit.
We make our money in the front of the house on the booze though. As a dad trying to make ends meet, I don't get how people can now go out and pay $10 bucks for a 12oz glass of beer. I drink for free after hours, but couldn't afford to get drunk at a bar these days! We had bars with nickel beer night when I was in school. Granted it was Icehouse or Busch, but dang.
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#17
Nothing.
Some items might have higher margins than others, but at the end of the day staff wages (everywhere but the USA), utilities, tax, rates, rent etc all need to be paid, plus making a profit which is part of the point after all.
So no your glass of coke, bottle of wine, portion of chips etc is *not* a rip off.
If you care so much about the wholesale cost then a restaurant is not for you, stay at home.
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#18
Not a chef but a baker.
Cake balls.
They're maybe 1 inch by 1 inch (rolled in a ball and dipped in icing) but we sell them for $1.65 each.
We sell a quarter sheet cake (most common size) for $20. We sell 1 dozen cake balls, which is maybe 1/3rd the cake, for $19.8
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#19
I'm not a chef by any stretch of the imagination, but I do have a small BBQ business. I've had some people call me out on my pricing for say, pulled pork. They even say, "I saw pork shoulder at Kroger's for $1.99/lb". I tell them that is great, but I source slightly higher quality than commodity pork. Aside from the meat cost, there is the cost of that fresh ground pepper and other seasonings. Then the cost of wood and propane for my smoker, which wasn't cheap, and right now I'm trying to figure out how to replace it with bigger, better, because it is falling apart. The cost of wrapping material. The cost of the sauce that comes with it (homemade from scratch). Let's not mention the minimum of 8 hours I had it in the smoker, watching it carefully, then letting it rest for the right amount of time before shredding. Oh then there is the knowledge base it takes to do it right, which took many years of crappy BBQ that only I ate to get here. But absolutely, you could buy commodity shoulders at the store and replicate for a fraction of the price. And they should.
#20
Soda Pop. $3 a glass for $0.10 of product.
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#21
Not a chef and I don't work in food service anymore, but I went to a highly praised Italian restaurant in my area, and got a pistachio cannoli. But it was actually peanuts with green dye. F**k them for insulting my eyes, intelligence, and taste buds.
#22
I was a line cook at Panera Bread. A grilled cheese was upwards of $7.
Literally just put a slice and a half of cheese on bread, and panini pressed it.
#23
Not a chef but I went to an Italian restaurant and ordered the $7 garlic bread entree, when it came out i nearly died, it was a $2 Woolworth's garlic bread loaf.
My Nonna would have actually had a heartattack if she was eating with us.
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#24
My roommates and I were at Denny's. One guy orders the "Hot tea" for $2. He got a mug of hot water and a bag of lipton.
He was pissed.
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#25
Avocado Toast.
Like, holy s**t. It's cheap bread. Cheap toppings. A cheap f*****g dressing. The only thing that cost is avocado's themselves. But the f*****g dish is like $20. The margin is easily a solid 13-15 dollars depending on the season. And people eat the s**t up.
As far as trend foods the only one I'd say gives you a similar margin for equal investment is the "Kobe" slider. American wagyu, like 2-3oz patties all sold for like, again, $20. Wild.
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#26
At any fast-food drive-thru, the speaker box hears everything from when you pull up until after you drive off. If you talk crap about us, we hear it. If you are arguing with your other passengers or on the phone, we hear that, too.
#27
Dude MAYONNAISE.
We bought that s**t in for €12,50 (that's $15) And we served it in these small cute dish/tray for €0,50.
We could do almost 500 of these servings. That is €250 ($300)
That's 20 times the original value. Thát is inappropriate and is the reason why I go against the system and eat my fries
**NO SAUCE**.
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#28
I worked in a fancy country club ($25K initiation fee, then $7K/year in the 90s). A slice of "homemade" cheesecake was $7 each on the menu. One of the sous chefs stopped by the Giant Food grocery store every day on the way to work to pickup a whole cheesecake for about $5.
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#29
We serve "hot fresh baked pretzels" for $8.95.
We get em by the case frozen. Roughly $75 per box. 100 per box. We get 33 orders per box and one to eat while figuring out math.
33 orders X $8.95 = 295.35.
So profit is 220.35 (minus the cost).
So with that 220.35 we pay the electric, gas, rent, taxes, staff, equipment, etc. And thats assuming we sell all 33 orders of pretzels. Stan my line cook eats an order. Boom, down to 32. Jose burned an order. Down to 31. Barb sneaks one home in her purse. 30 orders. 3 pretzels are broken in the box. Down to 29. So our 220.35 just went down to 184.55 pretty quickly...and very easily.
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#30
My ex use to work at Applebees. She told me that everything you eat there is pre-packaged and just microwaved once you order it, including the ribs and steak.
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#31
Short-rib flatbread pizza. We take leftover short rib from the previous night, shred it, put it on $0.05 worth of flatbread with a sprinkle of cheese and some diced red onion, and ship it out for $11.45. It's literally $10 profit.
And people love it. We sell easily 20-25 every night as hot apps.
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#32
I used to work at a local taco shop in a college town. People went ape s**t for the food there even after they graduated. The nostalgia was so strong, we shipped DIY boxes of the ingredients around the country to people that wanted it. It was just a box with bulk taco meat, cheese, lettuce, and the (very cheaply) restaurant-made hot sauce and "white sauce" (which people went berserk for, but it was literally just mayo, milk, salt, and pepper). You could also get hoagie buns because grinders were also really popular there.
You could make the same exact same food with grocery store ingredients for cheaper. There was seriously absolutely no reason to order the restaurant's food to ship.
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#33
When ever my SO orders olives for the table it annoys me. all they have to do is take them out of the jar and put them in a bowl.
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#34
Not a chef, but a cook. At my restaurant the menu says you get three pieces of breaded chicken in a wrap... But you only get two.
#35
From my *very* brief stint working in a gastro-pub...
Wines are by far the biggest rip off.
Think back to the mid-noughties:
The same wines that you could buy for £8 a bottle would be sold for £15. The mid-range at £22 (bought for £10). High end would extend up to £80 a bottle. These never cost more than £20 each in bulk. Then there's the champers, £120 a bottle bought for £25 from the cash and carry.
For functions, you could get discount or bring your own. Corkage (a fee for the staff to serve you the wine you brought with) was between £5 and £10 a bottle, depending on the size of the party.
#36
I'm not a chef but a victim. I was at a moderately well regarded seafood restaurant and ordered lobster tails stuffed with clams, what I ended up with was lobster tail SHELLS that had been completely emptied of the lobster meat (where did it go??) and stuffed with a mixture of breadcrumbs and minced clams that tasted like they were straight out of a can. $26 for what was essentially a lobster-shaped loaf of clam-bread. After jabbing it with my fork for a minute looking for the actual lobster tail, I called the waiter over and whispered "I think you forgot something?", and he tells me no, you were served exactly what you ordered.
#37
We sell a cheesy bread, which is 8 pieces with provolone, asiago, romano shake and optional garlic for 4 dollars. It became extremely popular, so the company started selling half cheesy breads, with 4 pieces each, for 3 dollars.
Literally you get half the food for 75% the price of a full.
#38
Not exactly a 'chef', but I package baking/cooking mixes for a kitchen supply shop. They're very proud of their stuff, sometimes even calling it gourmet. Some of it we put together by scratch...but some not so much.
The other day for example I was scooping premade Krusteaz pancake mix into little bags described 'gourmet pancakes from our family recipes'.
#39
We have a dessert, homemade donut holes, tossed in sugar and drizzled with Nutella for $10. It's leftover pizza dough deep fried. A 45lb bag of flour is $18, so you do the math.
Shits tasty as f**k tho!
#40
I used to work at one of the quickservice restaurants at The Mouse™️. Bottled water cost like close to $5 after tax, but if you asked for a cup of water we’d give you a HUGE cup of water for free. Not a small plastic cup but the same cups we use for medium soda orders. The only reason bottled water would be worth it is if you didn’t like the taste of the cupped water, but it never made much of a difference to me.
#41
Not really food but I reported my work for watering down the liquor all the while charging $10 a beer and $12-18 for a single and double shot (hotel.)
Cant wait to have these scummy f***s loose the only thing making that shithole worth anything.
#42
Not a chef, but former waitress. Used to work in this restaurant where specialty was a seafood pasta. Each order cost the restaurant just $3 but they charged $24.
#43
If you ever go to Bertucci's just know it is the most overpriced dining experience you will ever have. You could make the equivalent of every single menu item could be made for less than a quarter of the shown price. Ever gotten Tuscan vegetables? Its 12.99 (iirc) on the menu, it is 3 slices of eggplant, a scoop of tomatoes, a scoop of zucchini pieces and some artichoke. actual cost 35 cents.
#44
Not a chef but a food distributor. Desserts. So many places claim house made pies, fresh baked cookies...Nope. frozen frozen frozen, thawed, then baked. Then they try to charge 7 bucks a slice.
#45
I cook at a nice resort in a tropical location, and just as a general head's up to tourists and travelers: if the restaurant you're eating at seats a large amount of people, or it looks like they do some pretty high volume; chances are most of the food you're getting is frozen and not, "made fresh".
#46
We make Ice tea and sell it on tap. Its really good, but its just Orange Pekoe, simple syrup, water, and lemon juice. The stuff prints money.
#47
Not a chef, but our favorite restaurant now charges $16-$19 *each* for a regular "well" drink (i.e. "gin and tonic") and over $20 each for a standard "call" drink, such as a "Beefeater martini."
At those prices, the drinks often cost as much or *more* than the entrees.
#48
Noodles are pretty cheap to buy in bulk. A bowl at a restaurant can be anywhere from $8-$16.
#49
I used to cook at a seafood restaurant and without a doubt it was the lobster rolls. We used hardly any filler in them, basically all lobster and i still couldn't believe what we were selling them for.
#50
Expensive city here. The biggest ripoff that customers have to pay for is the exorbitant rent restauranteurs owe to their landlords. Restaurants typically make less than 6% profit margin.
#51
Mcdonalds a McDouble is a Big Mac without the middle bun and Mac sauce just tell them to add Mac sauce for like 40 cents.
#52
Sushi chef. Cucumber or avocado rolls. Less than a handful of rice, one half sheet of nori, and about 1/4 of an avocado or it's equivalent in cucumber. No idea why anyone gets these, the spicy vegetable roll is dope.
#53
Not a chef, and not a restaurant, but movie theater popcorn has one of the HUGEST markups.
#54
Special sauce (siracha and mayo) = $1.00
Ask for siracha and mayo = FREE.
#55
Not a chef, but if a takeaway in the UK serves multiple things, you can garauntee only one of those things is any good.
and it's never the pizza.
#56
Pasta anything.
#57
Where I used to work sold a pint of pepsi for £4.
It made me sad.
Thirsty family comes in and orders a pint of cola each for the parents and a half each for 3 kids? £14. That's 2 hours wage for me.
#58
Our cup of soup is the same size as our bowl but the bowl costs 30 percent more.
#59
As a caterer, almost everything is a rip-off. One example that stands out are the tiny votive candles that are occasionally placed on tables at a fancy event. These little things are used numerous times and they charge $3/candle. Doesn't seem like much until every table has 3 candles and there are 28 tables. Now we're talking over $250 for candles. China service is another fine example that I won't go into detail.
#60
I worked in a big fancy restaurant. Makes about 20k a day. They microwave everything. Fresh steamed veggies? Nuked. Warm pie? Microwaved. Everything they can they microwave.